resubmit the transcript of the interview released by the magistrate Paolo Borsellino May 19, 1992 Jean Pierre Moscardot reporters and Fabrizio Calvi, as aired on television. The interview was recorded four days before the attack capacity in which he was killed Giovanni Falcone. Two months later (July 19) the same Borsellino was killed in Via D'Amelio in Palermo. In this interview we talk about the relationship between Berlusconi and the Mafia.
Below you will find the link to the filing of the decree of 3 May 2002 the investigating judge of Caltanissetta for Falcone and Borsellino killings after investigations into Berlusconi (Alfa) and Dell'Utri (Beta): more reason not to believe what telling us of the massacres of Capaci and via D'Amelio ...
Borsellino
Yes, I met I met in the period prior to the maxi-trial, and specifically in the years between 1975 and 1980, and remember to have a judiciary that involved extortion inflicted on a number of private clinics Palermo. Vittorio Mangano was indicated by both Buscetta and Contorno as "honorable man" belonging to the Cosa Nostra.
Journalist
"Men of honor" that family?
Borsellino
The man of honor of the family of Pippo Calo, the character who was head of the family of Porta Nuova, whose family originally belonged to the same Buscetta. Made sure Vittorio Mangano, but this had already been instructed by the previous procedure that I had and I was also a procedure called procedure Spatola, which Falcone had learned in the years leading up to the maxi-trial, which Mangano lived in Milan, where as resulted from a number of wiretaps was a terminal of drug trafficking, drug trafficking that led families in Palermo.
Journalist
This Vittorio Mangano was drug trafficking in Milan?
Borsellino
Vittorio Mangano, if we want to be limited to those which were emergencies evidentiary most important is the speaker of a telephone conversation between Milan and Palermo, during which he, in a conversation with another character of the Mafia families in Palermo, promises or deals with the arrival of a shipment of heroin either, according to the conventional language is used in telephone intercepts, such as shirts or horses.
Journalist
However you as an expert, can say that when Mangano talk of horses on the phone, it means drugs.
Borsellino
Yes, among other things, this view of the horses they mean drugs, is a theory which was advanced to the order of our investigation and was then approved the trial, so much so that Mangano was convicted at the trial of the maxi trial for drug trafficking.
Journalist
Dell'Utri not involved in this story?
Borsellino
Dell'Utri has not been charged with the maxi process as far as I remember, I know there are investigations concerning him and concerning all Mangano.
Journalist
In Palermo?
Borsellino
Yes, I believe there is an investigation that is currently in Palermo with the old rite of the case in the hands of the investigating judge, but I do not know details.
Journalist
Marcello Dell'Utri Dell'Utri or Alberto?
Borsellino
not know the details, I could see having taken a few notes, that we speak of Marcello Dell'Utri and Albert, both of them.
Journalist
Brothers
Borsellino
Yes
Journalist
Those of Publitalia?
Borsellino
Yes
Journalist
Why is the investigation of Valentine's Day, an interception between him and Marcello Dell'Utri where we talk about horses.
Borsellino
Well, in the conversation in the maxi-trial, we talk of horses to be delivered to the hotel, so I do not think he could actually be of horses, if someone has to deliver two horses, I deliver them at the racetrack or to a horse, certainly not inside the hotel.
Journalist
There is a member of Marcello Dell'Utri, that Philip Rapier says that Dell'Utri was introduced to him by a family of Stephen Bontade.
Borsellino Palermo is the Sicilian city where the Mafia families were more numerous, it is even spoken in a while at least two thousand men of honor with large families, the family of Stephen Bontade seems that in a while I counted at least 200, it was however, households belonging to one organization, that is Cosa Nostra, whose members are mostly all know each other, and then it is likely that this relates Rapisarda a true fact.
Journalist
Rapisarda you have heard of it?
Borsellino
I know of the existence of Rapisarda, but I have not really addressed pesonal.
Journalist
Because apparently, Rapisarda, Dell'Utri, were in business with Ciancimino through such a Alamia.
Borsellino
Alamia That was in business with Ciancimino is a fact known to me and I think that turns up in some process that has already taken place. As for Dell'Utri and Rapisarda, I can not give specific details, since I always repeat surveys of which I have not personally involved.
Journalist
Does not it seem odd that some characters, such as large industrial Berlusconi, Dell'Utri, are linked to men of honor like Vittorio Mangano?
Borsellino
In the early seventies, Cosa Nostra began to become too firm, a company in the sense that by incorporating more and more important, that at some point became even monopolistic in drug trafficking, Cosa Nostra began to manage a huge mass of capital, which of course needed to flow, in part because these funds were deposited or exported abroad and then this explains the closeness between elements of the Mafia and certain officers who were responsible for these movements of capital.
Journalist
She says it is normal Cosa Nostra interests of Berlusconi?
Borsellino
is normal for those who owns large amounts of money looking for the tools to use this money, both in terms of recycling, both from the point of view to make money from this money.
Journalist
Mangano was a pilot fish?
Borsellino
Yes, look, I can tell that he was one of those characters that here were the bridges and bridgeheads mafia organization in northern Italy.
Journalist
is said to have worked for Berlusconi?
Borsellino
I can not be said about it or even if I have to point out that as a judge I feel uncomfortable to say the things I'm not sure, I know there are even still on the subject of ongoing investigations . I do not know what acts are now known, ostensible and what should remain secret. The issue concerning his relationship with Berlusconi, it is a story that the memories or the memories, however, is a story that is not mine, I am not the judge who is dealing with so I do not feel authorized to say anything.
Journalist
There is an investigation still open?
Borsellino
I know there is an investigation still open.
Journalist (in French)
Eating and Berlusconi a Palermo?
Borsellino
Yes
These people like Judge Borsellino gave their lives to do justice on different events that are still hidden and unclear. I will not let it all ends in oblivion.
The work of these courts must continue despite their loss, we all know. And 'our right!
Freedom of information in Italy In the last few years is a disgrace, instead of airing programs that deepen the dark sides of these events we have to be gossip about people who sincerely do not represent anything that affects only seem to talk about and according to their "love stories" rather than their actual ability (which did not). Wrapped some artists are defined ....
Yuck .... The artis
are other .......
Here is a link that contains the decree of May 3, 2002 filing of the investigating judge of Caltanissetta for Falcone and Borsellino killings after investigations into Berlusconi (Alfa) and Dell'Utri (Beta) (in PDF format from the website www. societacivile.it)
http://www.societacivile.it/memoria/articoli_memoria/archiviazione.pdf
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