And 'the theme which is discussed in the last month.
The current Italian government has passed a bill limiting the wiretaps. Once again you try to put a stop to the Italian judiciary and its independence seriously undermining the various investigations and criminal proceedings, other than by interception brought a lot of positive results in terms of bank takeover, fraud against the State and citizens, drug dealing etc etc ...
In practice such control procedures, approved the bill, will be allowed only for offenses that exceed the ten-year sentence including for mafia and terrorism. Will no longer be permitted to disclose the interception and publishers that do not meet this measure will risk fines of salty and sometimes imprisonment. The same is true for judges and employees who carry out such checks in a practical sense that they risk up to five years in prison.
you think because this issue was considered by the government a top priority?
Simple, caste (politicians) feel at risk after bank takeover scandal over rigged by several leaders of the center and exposed through the interception, they fear that their conversations, made to buy the Senators in exchange for little girls the entertainment world, are on display disgraced, they feel their breath on the neck of the judiciary and mask their fear by saying that judges are only a few die-hard political spectrum.
The absurd thing is that they (politicians) have not yet formed in their heads that they are due to vote (alas) of the citizens and their dirty faces should be aware of all, because everybody can judge and decide who give the chair. You parry the ass without consulting us, saying that such provvendimenti be good for everyone.
I think that if a person has nothing to hide should not be afraid of being intercepted.
I am bothered to republish some of those conversations scandal, leaving you free to judge with your ears as online freedom of speech and expression is still valid while the TV is now optional.
bank takeover illegal Unipol-BNL
Massimo D'Alema
Giovanni Consorte
July 7, 2005 ore 23:18
D'Alema : You are what they are talking about all the newspapers?
Consort : Look at my biggest loser! I wanted to go unnoticed but I can not do it.
D'Alema : Eh, unnoticed, yes.
Consort : Maximum I swear, what I do as I pass unnoticed the better. But, in short, Massimo, I'm trying to do it, here, I'm trying to do it ... eh ... with the engineer [ Caltagirone ] we closed the deal tonight (...) in the sense that they give their all, we went to meet them a little 'about this, we now form ... we need to formalize things. Now there is no fundamental and important step. I'm bringing the cooperators because they are all gassed, enthusiastic and ... happy and morally, I said
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D'Alema : How much money do you need more?
Consort : Not much, a few hundred million euro.
D'Alema : And after that you do alone? (...)
Spouse: Yes Unipol, five banks, four popular, and a Swiss bank (...). Oh no! There Hopa, Hopa also makes us. And we go on. We will have 70% of BNL. According to you, Massimo, we can break the balls at that point?
D'Alema : No, no, no.
Consort : I do not think [laughs]
D'Alema : Yes, someone storcerà the nose, say that you are a friend of Gnutti and Fiorani, but ...
wife: But they can say what they want, but it is not true ... that is, it is true that I am a friend, but it is also true that I do everything myself, I do with ...
D'Alema : All right. Go on, go!
Consort : Max, we will give it our all.
D'Alema Make us dream! Go!
Consort : No, because if we do we have recovered a piece of history, Massimo, because the BNL was founded as a cooperative bank in the world, eh!
D'Alema: It is called "Labour" then we can forget?
Consort : Look, I tell you, is to do a monstrous effort, but ... worth a year before the elections.
Exactly one week later, another phone call.
July 14, 2005 at 9:46 am in the morning
Spouse: Massimo Hello, good morning.
D'Alema: I speak with the man of the moment?
Spouse: The man of the moment! The loser of the moment ... [Laughs]
D'Alema : At what point are you? No but I did not say anything to which you are. No I wanted to say one thing ...
Consort : It 's closed.
D'Alema : E 'come to see Vito Bonsignore.
Consort : Yes I talked to yesterday. Uhm.
D'Alema : What gives ... advice.
Consort : Yes, if you stay in or sell out.
D'Alema : no, he wanted to tell me ... wanted to know if I asked him to do what you did you ask him to do, or not [chuckles] ...
Consort : ... [laughs] ...
D'Alema: What did other things, shall we say ...
Consort Behold, I guess. He was not disinterested.
D'Alema : ... in the margins on a table politics. (...) I wanted to inform you that I have ... I adjusted my part.
Consort : Eh.
D'Alema : he told me that remains, said the remains ...
Consort Ah, yes. Uhm. Well.
D'Alema: It 's willing to agree with you one year, two years ... the time you need.
Consort : Yes, yes. No, but I've been there ... actually, I said, look, decide how it feels better - I say - if you want to hang out with us ... now how do we honor the commitments to others, if she stays we like ...
D'Alema : Well, John, go to the point, if there is still ...
Consort : Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is enough.
D'Alema : Then ... we have not spoken, eh?
Consort : No, absolutely not. Monday ... Monday launched the ' Opa . We're done.
Now Consort passes the phone to Pierluigi Stefanini that D'Alema reveals important to have probed the financial community.
D'Alema : Thanks to our friends, eh?
Stefanini : Have you seen these ... these poor beggars of cooperatives, have you seen what they are doing?
D'Alema : But you are great, I always say. I have defended in all locations.
Stefanini : [chuckles] ... eh.
D'Alema : A great reality.
Stefanini : ... come on, come on, this is a beautiful work, dear.
D'Alema : You do well to ... accounts, eh! Not bad accounts.
Stefanini : That is vital, that's fine.
D'Alema : Yeah .. Anyway I did a bit of chat, also in Milan ... short in the end, if you do it, then respect you.
Stefanini : Yes, indeed.
D'Alema : Now shoot, because it is clear that ... eh ... the fact that someone else comes in the parlor bother.
Stefanini : bothers you.
D'Alema : But the day that you will be inside, I respect you.
Meanwhile D'Alema warned Consort on interception.
D'Alema: I then I must tell you one thing ... ah ... if you find a second ... directly.
Consort : All right. No, but so ... eh ... you see when you're here in Rome, because I know you're around a lot.
D'Alema : No, I'm in Rome. Even today at 7.00 ...
Consort: Oh, is impossible today, I'm all over the world to develop the money. Sunday you're in Rome?
D'Alema : Tomorrow morning at 8.00. Eh?
Consort : You are in Rome Sunday? Either I need to talk ...
D'Alema : Well, I wanted to tell you ... of prudence that you have. Maybe ...
Consort : Um.
D'Alema : Maybe you got the voice, say.
Consort : Um.
D'Alema : Should I get a list ... [Laughs] ... of prudence that you have.
Consort : What do I need. Uhm.
D'Alema : Yes Communications.
Consort : All right. Now, then look ... I'll call you in half an hour and see how they are me ... that is, how do I get organized.
The next morning at 10.33 am the owner of the right arm of Unipol called D'Alema.
July 15, 2005 at 10:33
Giovanni Consorte
Nicola Latorre
Spouse: Listen, this is the problem. He [D'Alema] told me:
Latorre : All right, all right (...). Okay, Jupiter, do not ... Jupiter, thought to work and do not worry, do not worry (...). Mò I speak with Max.
Consort : (...) The only thing is if I have to say something urgent (...) I (...) then I've got my phone, I'll call you e. .. you tell me where and we'll get it.
If you want to know more about the details of these covert operations of these conversations and I advise you to consult the text of Marco Travaglio "If you know them avoid the"
As regards the current chairman of the board but provides a lot of youtube video on some specific conversations took place between him and Craxi, between him and his right arm Marcello Dell'Utri, between him and the former president of the Sicily region (on trial for collusion with the Mafia) Totò Cuffaro, between him and the 'ex Director of RaiFiction Agostino Saccà.
Silvio Berlusconi, Craxi
What do you talk about the former chairman of the now defunct Craxi and handsome businessman Arcore?
Silvio Berlusconi, Marcello Dell'Utri
November 28, 1986
I wonder, to plant a bomb at the gate of the house and laughs?
How do you know in detail the type of explosives used? also gives a review!
Silvio Berlusconi, Salvatore Cuffaro
January 10, 2004
Grande Marco.
Silvio Berlusconi Agostino Sacca
September 12, 2007
I leave you comments.
open your eyes.
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